The reason people don't play it online is because there are newer versions available hen, thats why he's asking for help. Be careful though dude, you risk your gamerscore being wiped out and labled a cheater as powerslave has mentioned in his post about gears of war 2 cheaters. I don't see what you are trying to do is cheating tho...

How dare you suggest that I am a cheater! Just because I don't see a problem with what clothplay is trying to do, does not mean that I am a cheater. My opinion would be diferent if he were talking about hacking the latest version of the game. I do not cheat nor do I condone it. You are a fool Hen because you make assumptions based on no evidence, or even any suspicion for that matter!

You like to argue with everyone don't you? I consider it cheating when others are put at a disadvantage during thier own gameplay, as you are aware, no-one else plays this game therefore no-one else is being disadvantaged. Are you honestly telling me you have a problem with what clothplay is trying to do? Originally, it was the cheaters that forced M$ to take action, that is true, however I'm sure they are actively seeking those people who have modified their console to play backups as well e.g. you and I. NONE of us who have modified our xonsoles are innocent.

Adders wrote:

You like to argue with everyone don't you? I consider it cheating when others are put at a disadvantage during thier own gameplay, as you are aware, no-one else plays this game therefore no-one else is being disadvantaged. Are you honestly telling me you have a problem with what clothplay is trying to do? Originally, it was the cheaters that forced M$ to take action, that is true, however I'm sure they are actively seeking those people who have modified their console to play backups as well e.g. you and I. NONE of us who have modified our xonsoles are innocent.

WRONG
especially this bit
"however I'm sure they are actively seeking those people who have modified their console to play backups as well"
Every person who OWNS AN XBOX 360 has a LEGAL RIGHT to BACKUP their games. There is NO argument about that.
Microsoft couldn't give a toss about people who use their consoles to play backups, IF THATS WHAT EVERYONE DID. But i would imagine that cheaters and CONDONERS OF CHEATING use PIRACY which reduces INCENTIVE TO PRODUCE GAMES FOR THE XBOX 360.
I HAVE NOT used the xbox for PIRACY and i NEVER WILL.



I DOUBT THE NEW XBOX IS COMING OUT SOON.

Not entirely sure where the piracy comments are coming from dude, but the fact of the matter is that M$ terms and conditions for xbox live state that you may not use a modified console to access live, ergo we are not innocent. I backup my games the same as you do, I've had my share of £40 games ruined by my 3 year old son, but you are still making assumptions about other people e.g.

But i would imagine that cheaters and CONDONERS OF CHEATING use PIRACY

You have decided that I condone cheating, and therefore I must be a pirate, and again you have no evidence, or any reason to suspect this to be true.

Adders wrote:

Not entirely sure where the piracy comments are coming from dude, but the fact of the matter is that M$ terms and conditions for xbox live state that you may not use a modified console to access live, ergo we are not innocent. I backup my games the same as you do, I've had my share of £40 games ruined by my 3 year old son, but you are still making assumptions about other people e.g.

But i would imagine that cheaters and CONDONERS OF CHEATING use PIRACY

You have decided that I condone cheating, and therefore I must be a pirate, and again you have no evidence, or any reason to suspect this to be true.

IRRELEVANT!
I am put at a DISADVANTAGE when other people use cheats online whether or not it is for a VALID REASON.
And that annoys me.
Because I am put at risk DESPITE BEING WITHIN MY LEGAL RIGHTS FOR PLAYING BACKUPS ON MY CONSOLE.
got it?
THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER.

I live in Australia,
"You DO NOT have a legal right to a backup, because you have to MODIFY the console in order to play it"
You do have a legal right to a backup.
You don't have a legal right to mod the xbox.

Adders wrote:

If i had, I would have a decent gamerscore instead of the crappy 2150 that I have taken three years to get.

you just justified yourself

Powerslave wrote:

hen wrote:

I live in Australia,
"You DO NOT have a legal right to a backup, because you have to MODIFY the console in order to play it"
You do have a legal right to a backup.
Your are 100% incorrect.
You don't have a legal right to mod the xbox.

You are 100% wrong, M$ makes the rules, you agreed to them when you turned on the 360 and agreed to the EULA, and agreed to the terms in the game manual when you bought that too. 

You do not have a legal right to backup something you do not technically own.  If you knew anything about M$, everything you buy has a license, that they can revoke at any time.  You do not own the games, you bought a license to play it: READ MORE CAREFULLY!

The DMCA makes backups illegal because of what you have to do to play them, AND to even back them up. I think you need to READ the DMCA, because you are talking out your uneducated mind.

i suggest you read more on this article here:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Copy-Xbox-360 … id=2307241

here is an opening paragraph:
"People are sometimes afraid to copy Xbox 360 games because they think this is an infraction. While the fact that licensed games are not to be sold as illegal cracked or hacked copies is true, the simple fact that you copy Xbox 360 games you have bought for yourself is not a breach. Game producers allow users to create as many backup copies as they wish, all for their personal use. The only issue is that the original Xbox game disks are usually digitally signed to restrict illegal reproduction."

"The DMCA makes backups illegal because of what you have to do to play them, AND to even back them up. I think you need to READ the DMCA, because you are talking out your uneducated mind."
Who said anything about playing the game?

that is all.

I am not in an argument over whether playing the backup or making the backup is legal, I ADMIT that the process of making backups is against microsoft's terms and conditions. The fact remains that owning a backup of a game, whether or whether not it plays is legal BECAUSE by LAW you are able to keep backups of your games.
If you are still in further doubt I have an extract for you here.
"Any game copy used as a backup, and not re-commercialized is not considered illegal and you are permitted to own them as long as you also have the original game license."
AGAIN the FACT remains that BY LAW you are LEGALLY within your rights to own a backup if you are in possession of the original game license.
have you ever wondered to yourself why it is deemed acceptable to talk about backups on the forums instead of illegal rips?

"If you could simply pop the game disc in your stock PC drive, UNMODIFIED, to make the backup, then sure, but what you have to do (modify) to make or play 360 backups, is illegal, because of code and intellectual property rights."
You are constantly referencing things I DIDN'T SAY.-make or play
Why do I have to KEEP on stressing the fact that I AM NOT ARGUING ABOUT THE PROCESS?
if you are IN POSSESSION of a backup YOU ARE WITHIN YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS. The backup itself MAKES NO INFRINGEMENT.