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Powerslave wrote:
Windows XP runs for PS3, but is VERY SLOW. It will be slower for XB360 when complete.
You are wrong there. And for the reason below.
troy2000 wrote:
On 360, linux actually seems to run faster than PS3. I'm not exactly sure why, but when I open apps or folders, they don't take ages to load like on PS3...
The Xbox 360 has dual processors (and a GPU), meaning 2 CORES.
The PS3 has a single processor. Which uses CELLS.
There is a reason you don't see Cell processor computers everywhere.
Cells are inferior to Cores.
XP and Linux were also designed to run on cores.
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You know, you really REALLY aught to be careful when pointing out facts, because Xbox360 has THREE cores, not two.... If you are going to call me out, get YOUR facts straight as well.
I am not a PS3 or XBOX man, but the XBOX total processing power is 1-TFLOP and the PS3 is 2-TFLOP. Once someone figures out how to address the EIGHT Symetrical CPUs (8th is backup) then things WILL run fast.
SO, it may run faster on Xbox360, I stand corrected, but prove it. Remember, THREE CORE, not TWO....
9.6Ghz = (3.2 X 3)
Also, on how SLOW it will run on any console, just not really worth the hassle.
There is a PPC specific linux now, as well. Most O/S were designed around the x86 core CPU, as WinXP is. Since you are EMULATING to run WinXP on any PPC type cpu, the reult will be a slow running process.
XB360 may have a CORE, but it is not x86, it is still a PCC core, and the CELL CPU is a PPC Processor as well. Teh difference between a CELL and CORE is that the CELLs can be assigned different tasks, there are advantages to that. A multi core CPU runs multi theads of code in parallel, well, as simplistic as an explanation that is. The CELL CPU is harder to program for, beause you have to litterally assign each cell to a thread of code (simplistic info). YOu have 6-threads of code that the 360 cpu runs -vs- a potential of eight (seven standard) with the Cell CPU. Wow, I kow one whole thread more, but the assigning of code to each cell is what is different.
In any case, doesn't matter, Win XP on either machine will be a snail compared to a x86 machine.
I suppose I could set up a test and run a CPU heavy app on the 360, record the time taken for it to load, and then do the same on PS3
. Would that offer enough proof Powerslave?

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troy2000 wrote:
I suppose I could set up a test and run a CPU heavy app on the 360, record the time taken for it to load, and then do the same on PS3
. Would that offer enough proof Powerslave?
Depends on the APP, and how the code is made to run. As I said, the CELLs are capable of ONE thread each cell. The XBOX360 cpu would take the same code and run it faster, but, if you were to somehow split the code into six threads (3 pairs) and make each of the the Xbox360 cores run each pair seperately, it may be slower.
It doesn't matter anyway, I would never go back to a 1Ghz PIII machine running WinXp after using an AMD Septron64 at 3.4Ghz.... Too slow.... That is how the XB360 would run XP untill the code is altered to actually run on a PPC type core.
You were talking about there being a PPC only linux distro. Could you give me a name or link to it?
Thanks,

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Powerslave wrote:
You know, you really REALLY aught to be careful when pointing out facts, because Xbox360 has THREE cores, not two.... If you are going to call me out, get YOUR facts straight as well.
I pressed the key right beside 2. Sorry. fracking 2 and 3 are right beside each other. People make typos, as I saw several times in your reply.
I'm not calling you out whatsoever. Maybe you shouldn't be so fast to jump to conclusions so you don't come off as a jerk.
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awesome project
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wow
guys guys guys calm down, dont be spoiling this thread with bitching plz
anyway
u could run some sort of benchmarking app on each and see the results
also there is a ppc linux, in fact i think it goes byt that name lol
5:38pm:
I've started working on reducing the number of unnesessary background apps running, hopefully resulting in a noticeable speed increase.

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I really want to see a video of this ![]()
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OK, I'll make one now. Do you want the full thing; from 360 power-up to booting XP?

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troy2000 wrote:
OK, I'll make one now. Do you want the full thing; from 360 power-up to booting XP?
Give me all ![]()
Me want me want ![]()
And again nice work...
Jacob Out
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yea incredible stuff.

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deffiently, cant wait to see a full video of everything, that will be awesome
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OK. I'll have it ready to upload at around 11:15am (GMT+0).

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kewl man ![]()
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Video is ready, uploading now
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this pwns

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Here it is: (Sorry about filesize
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A2G3N817

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loll avi should have made it wmv or something would have been much smaller, but im still gettin it.

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Hmm very impressive ![]()

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Downloading~
CLLUTCH wrote:
loll avi should have made it wmv or something would have been much smaller, but im still gettin it.
Should have made it H.264 AVC MPEG4 ![]()
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Ghost in the Shell wrote:
Powerslave wrote:
You know, you really REALLY aught to be careful when pointing out facts, because Xbox360 has THREE cores, not two.... If you are going to call me out, get YOUR facts straight as well.
I pressed the key right beside 2. Sorry. fracking 2 and 3 are right beside each other. People make typos, as I saw several times in your reply.
I'm not calling you out whatsoever. Maybe you shouldn't be so fast to jump to conclusions so you don't come off as a jerk.
Well, as an ADMIN, you aught to be a little astute with your language, all you know how to do is SWEAR when you get mad or upset, and call people names. I don't care what I come off like, at least I am not using profanity in my posts! All that shows, is a persons lack of vocabulary, and compelte ignorance of the english language, as in you can't find a well thought out word to use, so you use primitive four letter ones. As A moderator, I can't expect people to follow rules I won't follow.
Jump to conclusions, well, I do not see a carved stones here anywhere.... With all the typo's and missinformation that flys around, how is anyone to know WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN???? You said 2 and I thought you meant 2 because it was never correceted till your colorful metaphoricly worded speech.
lol you are one heck of a character Powerslave.
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Powerslave wrote:
Ghost in the Shell wrote:
Powerslave wrote:
You know, you really REALLY aught to be careful when pointing out facts, because Xbox360 has THREE cores, not two.... If you are going to call me out, get YOUR facts straight as well.
I pressed the key right beside 2. Sorry. fracking 2 and 3 are right beside each other. People make typos, as I saw several times in your reply.
I'm not calling you out whatsoever. Maybe you shouldn't be so fast to jump to conclusions so you don't come off as a jerk.Well, as an ADMIN, you aught to be a little astute with your language, all you know how to do is SWEAR when you get mad or upset, and call people names. I don't care what I come off like, at least I am not using profanity in my posts! All that shows, is a persons lack of vocabulary, and compelte ignorance of the english language, as in you can't find a well thought out word to use, so you use primitive four letter ones. As A moderator, I can't expect people to follow rules I won't follow.
Jump to conclusions, well, I do not see a carved stones here anywhere.... With all the typo's and missinformation that flys around, how is anyone to know WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN???? You said 2 and I thought you meant 2 because it was never correceted till your colorful metaphoricly worded speech.
I knew the 360 had a tri-core processor since before it launched. Relax powerslave. It's just the internet. Swearing isn't disallowed on the forums. I didn't even mean anything by that, I wasn't even mad
, yet again you come after me. For what reason? Meh.
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