Comments on: Xbox Originals and Backwards Compatibility come to an end? http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/ Xbox360 Hacks Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:29:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dissapointed http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-88850 Dissapointed Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:57 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-88850 As to the dissapointment of the PS3 update, they have been pulling that for a long time. An earlier post mentions the lack of software development (and recognition of such) on Sony’s behalf, this has always been the case. The PS2 nad the online capability that came out almost 6 months before the release of the PS2 Slim that had it build in…..but on the other side of the coin M$ has been guilty of spending money on advancement as opposed to fixing the old stuff since the days of M$-DO$. Yes i was there for that and the only reason they keep afloat is the promise of a better item in the future “so just deal with the old problems until we can finish this” Only to deliver the same story and the same answer, so while Sony may be a little slower that is M$ counterpart ORI above has the right idea, neither one is better than the other, they both trip, just on different feet. As to the dissapointment of the PS3 update, they have been pulling that for a long time. An earlier post mentions the lack of software development (and recognition of such) on Sony’s behalf, this has always been the case. The PS2 nad the online capability that came out almost 6 months before the release of the PS2 Slim that had it build in…..but on the other side of the coin M$ has been guilty of spending money on advancement as opposed to fixing the old stuff since the days of M$-DO$. Yes i was there for that and the only reason they keep afloat is the promise of a better item in the future “so just deal with the old problems until we can finish this”
Only to deliver the same story and the same answer, so while Sony may be a little slower that is M$ counterpart ORI above has the right idea, neither one is better than the other, they both trip, just on different feet.

]]> By: Dissapointed http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-88849 Dissapointed Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:50:38 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-88849 As to the dissapointment of the PS3 update, they have been pulling that for a long time. An earlier post mentions the lack of software development (and recognition of such) on Sony's behalf, this has always been the case. The PS2 nad the online capability that came out almost 6 months before the release of the PS2 Slim that had it build in.....but on the other side of the coin M$ has been guilty of spending money on advancement as opposed to fixing the old stuff since the days of M$-DO$. Yes i was there for that and the only reason they keep afloat is the promise of a better item in the future "so just deal with the old problems until we can finish this" Only to deliver the same story and the same answer, so while Sony may be a little slower that is M$ counterpart ORI above has the right idea, neither one is better than the other, they both trip, just on different feet. As to the dissapointment of the PS3 update, they have been pulling that for a long time. An earlier post mentions the lack of software development (and recognition of such) on Sony’s behalf, this has always been the case. The PS2 nad the online capability that came out almost 6 months before the release of the PS2 Slim that had it build in…..but on the other side of the coin M$ has been guilty of spending money on advancement as opposed to fixing the old stuff since the days of M$-DO$. Yes i was there for that and the only reason they keep afloat is the promise of a better item in the future “so just deal with the old problems until we can finish this”
Only to deliver the same story and the same answer, so while Sony may be a little slower that is M$ counterpart ORI above has the right idea, neither one is better than the other, they both trip, just on different feet.

]]> By: Rob http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-88733 Rob Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:50:27 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-88733 I own both the PS3 and the 360. yes i pay for Live and No i dont ever play online on my PS3. I only use the thing to watch youtube videos and go online for browsing...AND those exclusive kickass games like Infamous. I really dont care about thier trophies because to me its a complicated system to go looking at friends' trophies. also Friends are harder to get on that system because hardly anyone has a mic. Im soo waiting for MAG to come out but whats the point if no one has a mic for team communication? Now lets talk 360... I play online and most pple have mics. BUUUUUUUT Microsoft messed up in that party system. You cant play Gears the right way because everyone is in a stupid party mode chatting with pple who are playing other games. Wheres the TEAM COMMUNICATION????? the party crap shouldnt be allowed in certain team based games like that. both systems have thier ups n downs. i hope natal brings some light for the 360...cant wait to get rid of my controller so i dont have to get up n pause when im cuddling to a movie and someone has to use the restroom haha... I own both the PS3 and the 360. yes i pay for Live and No i dont ever play online on my PS3. I only use the thing to watch youtube videos and go online for browsing…AND those exclusive kickass games like Infamous. I really dont care about thier trophies because to me its a complicated system to go looking at friends’ trophies. also Friends are harder to get on that system because hardly anyone has a mic. Im soo waiting for MAG to come out but whats the point if no one has a mic for team communication?

Now lets talk 360… I play online and most pple have mics. BUUUUUUUT Microsoft messed up in that party system. You cant play Gears the right way because everyone is in a stupid party mode chatting with pple who are playing other games. Wheres the TEAM COMMUNICATION????? the party crap shouldnt be allowed in certain team based games like that.

both systems have thier ups n downs. i hope natal brings some light for the 360…cant wait to get rid of my controller so i dont have to get up n pause when im cuddling to a movie and someone has to use the restroom haha…

]]> By: justin http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-87423 justin Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:40:32 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-87423 i was wondering if the xbox 360 backwards caompatibility update would screw up a flashed 360 console. liike does it update the firmware? i was wondering if the xbox 360 backwards caompatibility update would screw up a flashed 360 console. liike does it update the firmware?

]]> By: The Ori http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86985 The Ori Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:27:58 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86985 Jeffrey Thomas (2K's VP of sports development): SAID: Internally, we develop on the 360, because the toolset that Microsoft provides is a better toolset, but we also concurrently work on the PS3; so the development is going on at the same time, and there are people specializing on both. But a lot of the development that can be across the board is done on a 360, and Microsoft's toolset is a lot better of a toolset than Sony's. Translation = PORTS Jeffrey Thomas (2K’s VP of sports development): SAID: Internally, we develop on the 360, because the toolset that Microsoft provides is a better toolset, but we also concurrently work on the PS3; so the development is going on at the same time, and there are people specializing on both. But a lot of the development that can be across the board is done on a 360, and Microsoft’s toolset is a lot better of a toolset than Sony’s.

Translation = PORTS

]]> By: herb420 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86977 herb420 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:50:05 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86977 As an owner of both, allow me to address your problems with the PS3 (which I bought after I got a 360). a. More settings mean more ability to fit you as an individual, and all display settings will set automatically if you let them. b. The graphics are great, even though I never really thought that HD was a requirement for a video game. Look at the Wii, it seems to be doing fine without it. c. I had a friend give me a few Xbox originals as gifts and none would play. While every game I owned for my PS2 plays just fine in my PS3 and I own quite a few. d. The controllers for both systems are nearly identical. Theres a difference between keeping something and a newer company copying it exactly only moving one analog stick slightly. e. Maybe you are doing something wrong, mine works fine. f. You prefer the one that is available to you, and is extremely overpriced. I can move things from PS3 to PS3 with a USB stick, my portable USB HDD, or an SD, Compact Flash(gay), or Memory Stick Duo. g. The online store is Awesome, and has a wonderful layout. Plus Updates every week, lots of demos, videos, and exclusive content. h. Bluetooth headsets. Aren't STUPID because 1. They’re not expensive 2. Everyone has them, voicechat is dead on 360. PS3 is all about video chat. 3. PS3 has an official one coming with SOCOM, basically free 4. You bought a cheap 50 dollar headset that probably won't even work with a mobil phone. i. Online is great compared to 360. I mean really, seeing the same people on certain games everyday on a WORLDWIDE network means the games are better. If you want to lose to different people, go to a new room in the lobby. Games such as Warhawk, GTA4, and MGS4O are always full of people, at all hours of the day. All in all, they have ALOT of ground covered with this PS3… You think they tried to do WAY TOO MUCH and should focus more on GAMING like microsoft did, because Microsoft is terrible and should stick to making windows. Heh Heh As an owner of both, allow me to address your problems with the PS3 (which I bought after I got a 360).

a. More settings mean more ability to fit you as an individual, and all display settings will set automatically if you let them.

b. The graphics are great, even though I never really thought that HD was a requirement for a video game. Look at the Wii, it seems to be doing fine without it.

c. I had a friend give me a few Xbox originals as gifts and none would play. While every game I owned for my PS2 plays just fine in my PS3 and I own quite a few.

d. The controllers for both systems are nearly identical. Theres a difference between keeping something and a newer company copying it exactly only moving one analog stick slightly.

e. Maybe you are doing something wrong, mine works fine.

f. You prefer the one that is available to you, and is extremely overpriced. I can move things from PS3 to PS3 with a USB stick, my portable USB HDD, or an SD, Compact Flash(gay), or Memory Stick Duo.

g. The online store is Awesome, and has a wonderful layout. Plus Updates every week, lots of demos, videos, and exclusive content.

h. Bluetooth headsets. Aren’t STUPID because

1. They’re not expensive
2. Everyone has them, voicechat is dead on 360. PS3 is all about video chat.
3. PS3 has an official one coming with SOCOM, basically free
4. You bought a cheap 50 dollar headset that probably won’t even work with a mobil phone.

i. Online is great compared to 360. I mean really, seeing the same people on certain games everyday on a WORLDWIDE network means the games are better. If you want to lose to different people, go to a new room in the lobby. Games such as Warhawk, GTA4, and MGS4O are always full of people, at all hours of the day.

All in all, they have ALOT of ground covered with this PS3… You think they tried to do WAY TOO MUCH and should focus more on GAMING like microsoft did, because Microsoft is terrible and should stick to making windows.

Heh Heh

]]> By: herb420 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86976 herb420 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:12:47 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86976 I have to agree. To each is own, I just never really got into the 360, but it isn't a terrible system. So what if I have had to send it off for repairs, and they charge for online play. I was thinking of subscribing for a gold membership, if nothing else, so that I can watch my instant Netflix on my T.V. Personally, I only own two or three games for it(I am a PS3 fanboy, as shown above) and none of them have online play anyway. Plus I can't wait for that update that will make it look more like my Wii. I love those little big headed bastards. It also is neat that I will be able to have friends watch movies with me from across the world. PS3 has dissapointed on the release of Home, and their stupid Life With Playstation crap. But as long as Xbox keeps copying other systems they should stay above water. jk ;) peace be to you bloggers I have to agree. To each is own, I just never really got into the 360, but it isn’t a terrible system. So what if I have had to send it off for repairs, and they charge for online play. I was thinking of subscribing for a gold membership, if nothing else, so that I can watch my instant Netflix on my T.V. Personally, I only own two or three games for it(I am a PS3 fanboy, as shown above) and none of them have online play anyway.

Plus I can’t wait for that update that will make it look more like my Wii. I love those little big headed bastards. It also is neat that I will be able to have friends watch movies with me from across the world.

PS3 has dissapointed on the release of Home, and their stupid Life With Playstation crap. But as long as Xbox keeps copying other systems they should stay above water.

jk ;) peace be to you bloggers

]]> By: Kronic Lee http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86961 Kronic Lee Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:31:11 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86961 As an owner of both, I have quite a few problems with the PS3 (which I bought before I ever got a 360). a. A bunch of unnessecary settings that should have been covered with autodetection like the 360. b. The graphics aren't as good. Thats right, I said it. I don't know where people get this "PS3 POWERHOUSE" impression (the WHOLE REASON I waited and bought a PS3)... But both systems on my 42 inch LCD in 1080p (which most games don't even come in on the PS3 I noticed) and it's obvious the 360 is more powerful graphically. Look at Skate, Assasins Creed, Timeshift, etc... You're a fanboy if you say otherwise, it's obvious. Even the PS3 exclusive games I have like Drakes Fortune and MGS4 are not impressive graphically like Gears of War was, and thats 2 years later for those games. c. Backwards compatibility. I can play 20 of my 40 original xbox games. I got rid of the rest with my original xbox. I can play NO PS2 games. I still have to own my PS2, which is a waste of space. My buddy has a launch PS3 which still only plays SOME of his PS2 games, and does a good job of making those look crappier, rather than better like my 360 does for my xbox games. d. Crappy old PS2 controller with bad battery life and hand cramps galore. Theres a difference between keeping something thats already good and not putting effort into it. They know that thing needs a couple edges moved around slightly that would help IMMENSELY. e. Why does my hard drive keep corrupting files? f. Internal hard drive... WHY!?!?!?!? I should be able to take my drive to a buddies house like on my 360... g. The online store is DEAD, and has a horrible layout. Whoever said otherwise is a fanboy. h. Bluetooth headsets. It's STUPID because 1. They're expensive 2. No one has them, voicechat is dead 3. When someone does have them, they are static half of the time 4. Why does mine keep disconnecting regardless of which model bluetooth is used? i. Online is dead compared to 360. I mean really, seeing the same people on certain games everyday on a WORLDWIDE network is retarded. I can play games 2 years old (or even original xbox games!!!) on xbox live, and see different people EVERYDAY. And there is ALWAYS someone there. All in all, they have ALOT to work out with this PS3... I think they tried to do WAY TOO MUCH and should have focused more on GAMING like microsoft did at least. As an owner of both, I have quite a few problems with the PS3 (which I bought before I ever got a 360).

a. A bunch of unnessecary settings that should have been covered with autodetection like the 360.

b. The graphics aren’t as good. Thats right, I said it. I don’t know where people get this “PS3 POWERHOUSE” impression (the WHOLE REASON I waited and bought a PS3)… But both systems on my 42 inch LCD in 1080p (which most games don’t even come in on the PS3 I noticed) and it’s obvious the 360 is more powerful graphically. Look at Skate, Assasins Creed, Timeshift, etc… You’re a fanboy if you say otherwise, it’s obvious. Even the PS3 exclusive games I have like Drakes Fortune and MGS4 are not impressive graphically like Gears of War was, and thats 2 years later for those games.

c. Backwards compatibility. I can play 20 of my 40 original xbox games. I got rid of the rest with my original xbox. I can play NO PS2 games. I still have to own my PS2, which is a waste of space. My buddy has a launch PS3 which still only plays SOME of his PS2 games, and does a good job of making those look crappier, rather than better like my 360 does for my xbox games.

d. Crappy old PS2 controller with bad battery life and hand cramps galore. Theres a difference between keeping something thats already good and not putting effort into it. They know that thing needs a couple edges moved around slightly that would help IMMENSELY.

e. Why does my hard drive keep corrupting files?

f. Internal hard drive… WHY!?!?!?!? I should be able to take my drive to a buddies house like on my 360…

g. The online store is DEAD, and has a horrible layout. Whoever said otherwise is a fanboy.

h. Bluetooth headsets. It’s STUPID because

1. They’re expensive
2. No one has them, voicechat is dead
3. When someone does have them, they are static half of the time
4. Why does mine keep disconnecting regardless of which model bluetooth is used?

i. Online is dead compared to 360. I mean really, seeing the same people on certain games everyday on a WORLDWIDE network is retarded. I can play games 2 years old (or even original xbox games!!!) on xbox live, and see different people EVERYDAY. And there is ALWAYS someone there.

All in all, they have ALOT to work out with this PS3… I think they tried to do WAY TOO MUCH and should have focused more on GAMING like microsoft did at least.

]]> By: The Ori http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86957 The Ori Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:20:58 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86957 Yep, the original 60/20GB USA & JAP model PS3s have a separate area on the mainboard with the EE+GS+RAM so, it's basically the PS2 onboard. Sony then went with the GS only (-EE -RAM), for the PAL intro models, and all 80GB consoles; then to nothing with the 40GB, and all newer models. So, they reneged on their PROMISE to the buyers, but most importantly, the FANS... The fact is Microsoft NEVER actually promised 100% XB1 backward compatibility. They said it would be on a title by title basis, when they can get the title working. So, while they recently made their decision to stop adding titles, they did not REMOVE it all together like Sony did, after a promise of having it. This was a KEY factor in people buying a PS3, was to be able to keep playing their PS1/PS2 games. Yep, the original 60/20GB USA & JAP model PS3s have a separate area on the mainboard with the EE+GS+RAM so, it’s basically the PS2 onboard. Sony then went with the GS only (-EE -RAM), for the PAL intro models, and all 80GB consoles; then to nothing with the 40GB, and all newer models. So, they reneged on their PROMISE to the buyers, but most importantly, the FANS…

The fact is Microsoft NEVER actually promised 100% XB1 backward compatibility. They said it would be on a title by title basis, when they can get the title working. So, while they recently made their decision to stop adding titles, they did not REMOVE it all together like Sony did, after a promise of having it. This was a KEY factor in people buying a PS3, was to be able to keep playing their PS1/PS2 games.

]]> By: The Ori http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/08/26/xbox-originals-and-backwards-compatibility-come-to-an-end/comment-page-1/#comment-86956 The Ori Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:08:23 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/?p=412#comment-86956 If on-line play is the beef: If M$ were to offer free on-line nultiplayer option? The entire console playing field would shift drastically to 360; because that's all Sony really has going for PS3 right now, is FREE on-line play. Lets face the fact that; Sony does NOT have the software development like the 360 does, they admit it, and so do the developers that are not PORTING to it. A good handful of Sony Exclusive titles have gone to 360. Ace Combat; that being one of the main reasons I bought the PS3, to find it went to 360, and NO PS3 at all. Look, the PS3 is STILL struggling to get original coded titles and not PORTS. I got both consoles, and I will not buy PS3 ported from 360 titles, I just won't. Games like the RTS Civilization? Well, which ever console it's cheaper to buy for, I will get, because it's not a graphic extensive game. <strong>Note:</strong> This "mine is better than yours" will never EVER cease, as it is reason for wars on a larger scale now, because of the "my god is better than yours" mentality. The simplicity of it is: You like what you like, I like what I like, so neither you nor I, have the right to attack anyone, or to use ignorance and/or profanity to tell someone that you think yours stuff is better. People who do that are weak minded to start. If on-line play is the beef: If M$ were to offer free on-line nultiplayer option? The entire console playing field would shift drastically to 360; because that’s all Sony really has going for PS3 right now, is FREE on-line play. Lets face the fact that; Sony does NOT have the software development like the 360 does, they admit it, and so do the developers that are not PORTING to it. A good handful of Sony Exclusive titles have gone to 360. Ace Combat; that being one of the main reasons I bought the PS3, to find it went to 360, and NO PS3 at all.

Look, the PS3 is STILL struggling to get original coded titles and not PORTS. I got both consoles, and I will not buy PS3 ported from 360 titles, I just won’t. Games like the RTS Civilization? Well, which ever console it’s cheaper to buy for, I will get, because it’s not a graphic extensive game.

Note: This “mine is better than yours” will never EVER cease, as it is reason for wars on a larger scale now, because of the “my god is better than yours” mentality. The simplicity of it is: You like what you like, I like what I like, so neither you nor I, have the right to attack anyone, or to use ignorance and/or profanity to tell someone that you think yours stuff is better. People who do that are weak minded to start.

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