Comments on: 360 Lite-On Drives Unflashable!? http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/ Xbox360 Hacks Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:46:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: darren http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86686 darren Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:20:24 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86686 i hope can be flash soon... so expert out there if you have a way you be a god... i hope can be flash soon…
so expert out there if you have a way you be a god…

]]> By: Powerslave http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86675 Powerslave Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:19:06 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86675 NO, can't you read? NO FLASH means no flashING... 2 posts = 2 replies, huh? NO, can’t you read? NO FLASH means no flashING…

2 posts = 2 replies, huh?

]]> By: Powerslave http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86674 Powerslave Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:18:47 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86674 NO, can't you read? NO FLASH means no flashING... NO, can’t you read? NO FLASH means no flashING…

]]> By: Sam Henderson http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86673 Sam Henderson Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:49:19 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86673 The new drives still unflashable? The new drives still unflashable?

]]> By: Sam Henderson http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86672 Sam Henderson Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:48:35 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86672 Is the new drives still unflashable? Is the new drives still unflashable?

]]> By: darren http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86633 darren Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:27:30 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86633 i do hope someone hack the drive soon i do hope someone hack the drive soon

]]> By: The Ori http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86493 The Ori Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:39:56 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86493 Plenty of work was done on identifying the "Xyclops" in the XB1, where the BIOS was stored, and CANNOT BE ALTERED, as in FLASHED, and you can take that to the bank. That was the only way to stop the on-board flashing, and is NOT masked rom the way you are describing, it is plain ROM with no way to flash it, or alter the code. ROM, even MASKED rom, can't be changed, that's why it's called ROM, and not EPROM, EEPROM, FLASHROM, and so on. Even PROM is a one time write. Your definition of MASKED rom is incorrect: Mask ROM (MROM) refers to a kind of ROM ("read-only" memory) whose contents are programmed by the Integrated Circuit manufacturer (rather than by the user). The terminology "mask" comes from Integrated Circuit fabrication, where regions of the chip are masked off before during the process of lithography. It has nothing to do with HIDING anything or "masked" in your terminology. So, the eventuality is, they had to do the same with the XB360 drives. IT won't stop a modchip, just with the XB1 V1.6 boards, but made sure you can't flash anything on the board. Plenty of work was done on identifying the “Xyclops” in the XB1, where the BIOS was stored, and CANNOT BE ALTERED, as in FLASHED, and you can take that to the bank. That was the only way to stop the on-board flashing, and is NOT masked rom the way you are describing, it is plain ROM with no way to flash it, or alter the code. ROM, even MASKED rom, can’t be changed, that’s why it’s called ROM, and not EPROM, EEPROM, FLASHROM, and so on. Even PROM is a one time write.

Your definition of MASKED rom is incorrect: Mask ROM (MROM) refers to a kind of ROM (”read-only” memory) whose contents are programmed by the Integrated Circuit manufacturer (rather than by the user). The terminology “mask” comes from Integrated Circuit fabrication, where regions of the chip are masked off before during the process of lithography. It has nothing to do with HIDING anything or “masked” in your terminology.

So, the eventuality is, they had to do the same with the XB360 drives. IT won’t stop a modchip, just with the XB1 V1.6 boards, but made sure you can’t flash anything on the board.

]]> By: littlestevie http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86490 littlestevie Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:41:23 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86490 The Firmware is in the MTK (MT1319L). hate to break it to you but MediaTek have been integrating there SPI's for a while, i believe the first time i saw one was the successor to the Samsung 616E drives.... at that point they werent supported by MTK flash and still to this day aren't (we cant get flash ID's if we have no idea what the flash rom is... or even if its masked. As for the Xbox1 That chip is still flashable but its whats called a Masked ROM meaning we have no idea what it is.... i have seen a 1.6 debug motherboard and they dont have any extra chips (not even extra ram) and they can be flashed between a "standard" bios and debug bios (i say "standard" because the RC4 key is different therefore no signed code runs).... anyway back to the issue at hand. It would appear that the Liteon IT drives use these chips with embedded SPI. and we arent going to find a firmware updater to be able to theif the FlashID from... also as a side note i believe the only way will be to decap the mt....... i dont know about u but if i find one im not sacrificing one just so everyone can play a few shitty backups i want homebrew The Firmware is in the MTK (MT1319L). hate to break it to you but MediaTek have been integrating there SPI’s for a while, i believe the first time i saw one was the successor to the Samsung 616E drives…. at that point they werent supported by MTK flash and still to this day aren’t (we cant get flash ID’s if we have no idea what the flash rom is… or even if its masked.

As for the Xbox1 That chip is still flashable but its whats called a Masked ROM meaning we have no idea what it is…. i have seen a 1.6 debug motherboard and they dont have any extra chips (not even extra ram) and they can be flashed between a “standard” bios and debug bios (i say “standard” because the RC4 key is different therefore no signed code runs)…. anyway back to the issue at hand. It would appear that the Liteon IT drives use these chips with embedded SPI. and we arent going to find a firmware updater to be able to theif the FlashID from… also as a side note i believe the only way will be to decap the mt……. i dont know about u but if i find one im not sacrificing one just so everyone can play a few shitty backups i want homebrew

]]> By: Edje http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86489 Edje Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:48:03 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86489 Joe r. is right, U501 is the controller chip for the motor's etc. and it's thermal connected to the housing with an "rubber" pad. Joe r. is right, U501 is the controller chip for the motor’s etc. and it’s thermal connected to the housing with an “rubber” pad.

]]> By: The Ori http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86486 The Ori Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:04:58 +0000 http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/2008/04/21/360-lite-on-drives-unflashable/#comment-86486 Yeah, I should have paid more attention to the numbers on the chip, but anything's possible. I suppose they placed it in the controller chip, because of the Epoxy there. You should still be able to use a Modchip when/if one is made for the drive. Yeah, I should have paid more attention to the numbers on the chip, but anything’s possible. I suppose they placed it in the controller chip, because of the Epoxy there. You should still be able to use a Modchip when/if one is made for the drive.

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