Xbox 360 Hacks & Mods - www.xbox360-hacks.comthe DashHacks Network

- ps3-hacks.com psp-hacks.com iphone-hacks.com review-hacks.com nes-hacks.com dashhacks.com -


April 21, 2008
360 Lite-On Drives Unflashable!?

Posted by The Ori

The newer Phillips & Lite-On drives (for BenQ) have surfaced, and M$ seems to have gone with a ROM instead of FLASH memory. This is what M$ did with the V1.6+ Xbox1 systems so they could not be flashed either.

Info:
MFG Date: April 08
Model no. DG-16D2S
HW Version. A0A1
FW Version. 74850

Here is a pic of the TOP of controller board: The underside is just about blank, just a few parts and connectors. The MT1319L is the drive controller, the chip with the epoxy around it, and is NOT where the firmware is stored. My guess is that U501 is the ROM.

Complete Pic Set



RSS feed | Trackback URI

22 Comments »

Comment by Joe R.
2008-04-22 04:24:34

U501 is a drive controller IC. I learned the hard way opening 3 RW drives, that when touched, kill your ODD. Prermanently

Comment by The Ori
2008-04-22 09:04:58

Yeah, I should have paid more attention to the numbers on the chip, but anything’s possible. I suppose they placed it in the controller chip, because of the Epoxy there. You should still be able to use a Modchip when/if one is made for the drive.

 
 
Comment by Edje
2008-04-22 17:48:03

Joe r. is right, U501 is the controller chip for the motor’s etc. and it’s thermal connected to the housing with an “rubber” pad.

 
Comment by littlestevie
2008-04-23 04:41:23

The Firmware is in the MTK (MT1319L). hate to break it to you but MediaTek have been integrating there SPI’s for a while, i believe the first time i saw one was the successor to the Samsung 616E drives…. at that point they werent supported by MTK flash and still to this day aren’t (we cant get flash ID’s if we have no idea what the flash rom is… or even if its masked.

As for the Xbox1 That chip is still flashable but its whats called a Masked ROM meaning we have no idea what it is…. i have seen a 1.6 debug motherboard and they dont have any extra chips (not even extra ram) and they can be flashed between a “standard” bios and debug bios (i say “standard” because the RC4 key is different therefore no signed code runs)…. anyway back to the issue at hand. It would appear that the Liteon IT drives use these chips with embedded SPI. and we arent going to find a firmware updater to be able to theif the FlashID from… also as a side note i believe the only way will be to decap the mt……. i dont know about u but if i find one im not sacrificing one just so everyone can play a few shitty backups i want homebrew

Comment by The Ori
2008-04-23 23:39:56

Plenty of work was done on identifying the “Xyclops” in the XB1, where the BIOS was stored, and CANNOT BE ALTERED, as in FLASHED, and you can take that to the bank. That was the only way to stop the on-board flashing, and is NOT masked rom the way you are describing, it is plain ROM with no way to flash it, or alter the code. ROM, even MASKED rom, can’t be changed, that’s why it’s called ROM, and not EPROM, EEPROM, FLASHROM, and so on. Even PROM is a one time write.

Your definition of MASKED rom is incorrect: Mask ROM (MROM) refers to a kind of ROM (”read-only” memory) whose contents are programmed by the Integrated Circuit manufacturer (rather than by the user). The terminology “mask” comes from Integrated Circuit fabrication, where regions of the chip are masked off before during the process of lithography. It has nothing to do with HIDING anything or “masked” in your terminology.

So, the eventuality is, they had to do the same with the XB360 drives. IT won’t stop a modchip, just with the XB1 V1.6 boards, but made sure you can’t flash anything on the board.

 
 
Comment by darren
2008-06-23 14:27:30

i do hope someone hack the drive soon

 
Comment by Sam Henderson
2008-07-07 14:48:35

Is the new drives still unflashable?

Comment by Powerslave
2008-07-07 16:18:47

NO, can’t you read? NO FLASH means no flashING…

 
 
Comment by Sam Henderson
2008-07-07 14:49:19

The new drives still unflashable?

Comment by Powerslave
2008-07-07 16:19:06

NO, can’t you read? NO FLASH means no flashING…

2 posts = 2 replies, huh?

 
 
Comment by darren
2008-07-17 00:20:24

i hope can be flash soon…
so expert out there if you have a way you be a god…

 
Comment by Giepie
2008-09-08 00:51:11

darren

It is physically impossible to FLASH the “chip”, because that kind/type of chip can’t be written to.

The bottom line is that you will never be able to hack your XBOX by flashing it with software. The only solution would be to do a mod (ie, solder another “chip” to your DVDROM).

I am just as dissapointed, but you can’t change physics!

Comment by blacksoft
2008-09-16 06:20:57

Remember they said the same exact thing with 79fl drives and look what happened…

 
 
Comment by rick
2008-09-28 07:50:10

Can you get the key and change the drive to a benq i seen the liteon dumper jest waitin for it to get here

 
Comment by Jim
2008-09-29 18:51:51

You guys are nuts.

 
Comment by Moose
2008-10-01 12:06:21

Yeah, I think best way is to just get a Hitachi drive off of eBay and just swap it? But is it gonna work with the newer models of the 360 cuz of motherboards?

Comment by Apoorv
2008-10-19 11:07:06

hey people…..i have a x360 unfortunately it has that lite on drive on it……please smbdy hack it…..need to play it so bad….i know der r a lot of genius sitting out der….humble request to everybdy…just hack it…i believe in u all

 
 
Comment by Dogwoof
2008-11-13 13:24:28

It should be flashable mid december, believe me or not.

Comment by reinor
2008-11-24 19:14:21

No NO it won’t!!! A chip may come out for it, but IT will not be flashed by even Mid 2010…

Comment by brendon
2008-12-21 03:53:38

dude u just got pwnd’

24th december mo fucker!

Comment by JTAGGeR
2008-12-25 21:13:14

LOL

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Lusse
2009-02-23 07:42:13

Hahaha… pwned

 
 
 
 
 
Name (required)
E-mail (required - never shown publicly)
URI
Your Comment (smaller size | larger size)
Home Forums XBox360 News XBox360 Hacks XBox360 Saves XBox360 Downloads
XBox360 Accessories Reviews Contact Us SiteMap

©2009 Dashhacks Inc. - part of the dashhacks network. || Privacy Policy